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NAB 2008 Summary

Sat, 19 Apr 08 09:59:01 -0600

If, like me, you couldn't possibly keep up with all of the goings-on at NAB and decided to wait it out until the end, here is a short summary of the biggest announcements (or the ones most interesting to me anyway) in bitesize form.

RED
New low-end portable camera Scarlet

3K
Around $3000
Early 2009 release
New Mysterium X Sensor
1-120 fps (180 fps burst)
100MB/sec Redcode RAW and RGB recording via dual Compact Flash
4.8 inch LCD
Fixed 8x T2.8 lens
Auto and manual shooting modes
Wi-Fi control - this one opens up many possibilities

PVC Scarlet write-up

New high-end camera Epic

5K (up from 4K)
I have heard both $30,000 and $40,000 quoted (up from $17,500)
Early 2009 release
New Full-Frame S35 Mysterium X Sensor
1-100 fps (up from 1-60 fps)
100MB/sec (up from 36 MB/sec) Redcode and HDMI recording
6 lb body (down from 10 lbs)
RAW and RGB recording to Red Flash
Wi-Fi control
Fully upgradeable
You can get a full $17,500 credit for your Red One if you upgrade

PVC Epic write-up

New playback device RED Ray

Early 2009
4K in
4K, 2K, 1080p, 720p, SD playback
Can play back content from a regular red laser disc
Plays native R3D files from Compact Flash
4 HD SDI and 4
HDMI connections for 4K
2 HD SDI and 2 HDMI connections for 2K
2 hrs of 4K with 5.1 audio on a regular DVD
FireWire 800 for connecting external hard disks or cameras
Under $1000

PVC RED Ray write-up
Scott Simmons at the Editblog has several photographs of the various RED products.

Sony
PMW-EX3

Around $13,000
Uses SxS cards (similar to P2)
Removable lens
1080i / 720p switchable
Genlock and timecode inputs
Shoulder-mounted
Available late 2008

F35

S35-sized sensor
Extensive depth of field controls
Greater dynamic range than the F23 (800% more)
PL lens mount allows regular 35mm film lenses to be used

Panasonic
P2 Varicams (AJ-HPX3700 and AJ-HPX2700)

Now uses P2 cards exclusively. 5x P2 slots available on each camera
2/3" CCDs
Full-res 10-bit 4:2:2 AVC Intra-100 recording
Variable frame rates in 1-frame increments
Available fall 2008

AG-HPX170 solid-state camcorder

Improves on the successful HVX200
1/3" premium-quality CCDs offering increased sensitivity and lower noise
13x lens with 28mm wide-angle setting (widest in its class)
12-60 fps in 720p-mode
P2-only; no tape deck
Much smaller and lighter than the HVX200
Available fall 2008

Here is a great summary from DVXUser.com.

AJ-HVX200A camcorder

Successor to the hugely popular HVX-200
Incorporates the same lens and CCDs as the new HPX170 but with a tape deck for transitioning from a MiniDV workflow

Here is a great review from DVXUser.com.

64 GB P2 card

More than 4 hours of DVCPRO footage
More than 2 hours of DVCPRO50 or AVC-Intra 50
More than 64 minutes of AVC-Intra 100 or DVCPRO HD
Available fall 2008

AJ-PCD35 ExpressCard P2 drive

Allows P2 cards to be used in machines with ExpressCard ports
Can transfer from up to 5 cards at once
Available late 2008

Imagineer Systems
High-end finishing system mogul

Monthly subscription includes hardware, software and maintenance. Annual hardware upgrades
Open platform allows content sharing and management between multiple applications
Editing, compositing and grading integrated to allow you to switch from one to the other without rendering
Software "plugs in" to the architecture to perform certain tasks such as mogul/roto and mogul/comp with similar interfaces
mogul/serve shipping at NAB, other products to be determined

Studio Daily mogul interview

Matrox
MXO 2

Inputs: Component HD/SD, SDI HD/SD, Embedded SDI audio, Y/C, Composite, XLR audio, RCA audio, AES/EBU, HDMI, Embedded HDMI audio
Outputs: Component HD/SD, SDI HD/SD, Embedded SDI audio, Y/C, Composite, RCA audio, XLR audio, AES/EBU, HDMI, Embedded HDMI audio, Direct 5.1 surround monitoring
This does not have a DVI output like the MXO so it cannot output to a Cinema Display
Dynamic RT acceleration and hardware up/downscaling
Designed for HDMI monitoring with calibration and 1:1 pixel mapping
Black burst and tri-sync for HD
$1600
Released July 2008

Differences between the MXO and MXO 2 (PDF)
Shane Ross's write-up

64 GB Panasonic P2 cards coming soon

Fri, 15 Feb 08 00:58:08 -0700

Panasonic has announced 64 GB P2 cards to begin shipping in Fall 2008 (price unannounced). This doubles the storage space of the current 32 GB offerings. What I love about the HVX200 is that it is the camera that keeps on giving. When it first came out, 8 GB P2 cards would set you back around $1200. Today a 32 GB P2 card with 4 times the capacity will cost you around $1500. Unlike tape-based formats, the P2 format becomes more cost-effective as time goes on, increasing the cost-effectiveness of the HVX200 and P2 workflow.

A 64GB P2 card is capable of storing over four hours of DVCPRO footage (64 GB X 4 minutes per GB), or more than two hour of DVCPRO50, AVC-Intra 50 (64 GB X 2 minutes per GB) or 64 minutes of AVC-Intra 100 or DVCPRO HD. With five 64GB P2 cards installed, an AJ-HPX3000 P2 HD camcorder can record for 320 minutes in AVC-Intra 100 or DVCPRO HD (400 minutes in 1080/24pN) and 640 minutes (800 minutes in 24pN) in AVC-Intra 50 or DVCPRO 50.

As you can see above, the 64 GB card offers just over 1 hour of high-def footage which means that it now has the edge over tape-based formats (at least in terms of storage space) and this lead can only increase with time.

However, remember that you are storing your precious footage on there so even if you CAN store your entire short film on there, I'd advise regular backups to a hard drive in the field.

[via Studio Daily]

RED CES news - 4K delivery and Scarlet

Wed, 09 Jan 08 04:55:03 -0700

I know I'm late to the party but there were some important announcements at CES (Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas) by the creators of the RED camera.

Jim Jannard (head honcho) yesterday announced a 4K delivery system in response to the 4K displays announced at the show by Panasonic and Sony. He was not specific about what this delivery system would be comprised of but he has stated in the past a desire to create 4K projectors and it was interesting to note that he said "in the home as well as on the big screen".

I'm wondering what sized screen (and what sized house!) you would need to get the full benefit of 4K in your home (Panasonic's one is 150"), but I guess all will be revealed at NAB (the National Association of Broadcasters conference) in April.

Earlier in the week, Jim also revealed that there is a "pocket professional camera" in development called Scarlet. Further details will be given at NAB, but Jim did imply that it was intended to compliment, not replace the RED One.

That Jim loves to tempt us. It's a great way of getting people to talk and speculate about his products though. Apple adopts a similar strategy.

Blogwad 12/13/07

Thu, 13 Dec 07 02:54:07 -0700

Here are some of the headlines that caught my eye recently:

Oscars go long with songs - 59 songs are in the running for an Oscar nomination this year.

ProTools LE controlled with an iPhone - Someone has managed to create a hack that allows you to control ProTools LE in real-time from an iPhone. Looks pretty cool. Complete with video.

YouTube a conduit for "D-Boys" auditions - A Japanese talent agency is using YouTube as a means of auditioning actors.

Sony sets sights on new camera - Sony is to release the F35 next year as part of its high-end CineAlta line. It's got a Super 35mm sensor and will record a 10 megapixel image. It is planned to retail for $250k for the camera body (no lens or accessories). Sony also says it has a 4K camera in the works but it will take a while. "We don't want to do a low-end 4K camera system" - which is clearly a dig at the Red camera. It will be interesting to see what Sony brings to the table.

New trailers for Youth Without Youth - Two new trailers up for Francis Ford Coppola's new movie. I can't wait to see it.

RED cameras delayed

Sat, 10 Nov 07 11:06:13 -0700

RED has announced that it is delaying the shipment of some of its cameras in order to resolve issues discovered with some of the earlier models. They are fitting a new daughter board to the cameras which should increase dynamic range and reduce noise at frame rates 25fps and below, and they are designing new PL lens mounts. The old mounts were causing focus issues.

They are adding these modifications to cameras 1-100 which means that cameras 101-200 will ship a month later on November 30th, with this update included.

RED has stated that it is taking on the full cost of the updates.

[via CamcorderInfo]

Red stills of the Brooklyn Bridge

Mon, 01 Oct 07 18:30:06 -0600

HDForIndies has some high-res stills from a recent shoot with the Red camera. They really put it through its paces and the results are stunning.

People are calling it a 35mm killer. It could well kill it from a business perspective but the footage does not look like 35mm. If you want a 35mm look, use 35mm.

This is something different. This is something we haven't seen before. The images look very surreal (to my eyes anyway) due to the absence of grain. It looks strange now but this is something we will have to get used to, as this camera looks like it could well become the future of independent filmmaking. I remember hearing about the camera a year or so ago and everyone I told thought I was making it up. That's how much of a game-changer this camera is.

These images are well worth looking at.

Panasonic HPX3000 camera announced

Thu, 13 Sep 07 08:51:15 -0600

Panasonic has announced the HPX3000, a shoulder-mounted 1080p camera. It doesn't appear to be a successor to the HVX but a spinoff targeted at studio work, hence the $48,000 price tag.

The big difference between this and the HVX is that it shoots full raster 1080p, meaning that the footage you shoot is exactly 1920 x 1080 pixels and not subsampled to something lower like 1280 or 1440 pixels. That's only if you shoot using their AVC-Intra codec though. DVCPRO HD is not full raster so shooting in this codec will result in subsampling, which reduces quality. Still looks pretty good though, but not as good as it could.

I'm wondering where it stands with the Red. You buy the Red for $17,500 and once you've got lenses and accessories, you're at about $30-40k, which is still less than the $48k of this camera AND you have more than one lens. And of course, the Red shoots 4K. If you have a project coming up soon, this might be a good camera to hire rather than a Red because the current cameras aren't feature-complete and I heard the post production workflow needs some extra work. This camera, on the other hand, is from an established brand and is fully supported by Final Cut Pro (6 only).

If you are looking to buy a camera in the near future, my advice is to wait until early next year. I heard that Red should have shipped the pre-ordered versions by then and you'd have a better idea of whether or not it's the best thing since sliced bread by then.

The Panasonic HPX3000 ships later this month.

Panasonic to introduce new 32 GB P2 cards

Sat, 08 Sep 07 17:29:51 -0600

Panasonic announced yesterday that it would commence the shipping of 32 GB P2 cards in November. These would retail at $1,650 with the older 16 GB cards presumably staying at $900.

Panasonic proudly points out in its press release that it has quadrupled the storage capacity of its P2 cards in just one year. I remember the days when the 8 GB card was $1200. Back then it was a rip-off but now I think 32 GB is pretty decent for that price when you consider that a 40 GB Firestore is about the same price. The Firestores, however, have the disadvantage that they are not solid-state which means that they can be damaged if they are jostled and bumped in the field (which is very likely on most shoots).

They say that with 5 cards, you can get 2.5 hours (3 on 24p) on AVC-Intra 100 or DVCPRO HD and 5 hours (6.5 in 24p) in AVC-Intra 50 or DVCPRO 50 modes. If you already have installed the firmware update required for the 16 GB cards, you're fine, if not, you'll need to install it before you can use the 32 GB ones.

The full press release is here. Looks very promising.

Red One ships today

Fri, 31 Aug 07 21:55:00 -0600

The first 25 Red cameras are shipping today. Whilst the first shipping models are not fully feature complete, Jim has promised that there will be weekly firmware updates to gradually roll out the features, and that it should be fully complete by October.

Everyone here is really excited about what this will mean for the industry. We're hoping to get our hands on a rental model in the not-too-distant future so that we can get to grips with the workflow and ensure everything runs really smoothly on our system, as we know a lot of our customers are interested in using this camera.

We'll keep you posted on how everything goes. For anyone who isn't sure what the big deal is with this camera, go to the Red site and look at the specs. And then look at the price. Yep, that's not a typo.